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Post  SilentMirage Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:27 pm

I think Sendspace will do well since your file is small.

HOISAE! Awesome job, man. It's just like Infested Kerrigan except not having too much Zerg reverb. Nicely done, you outdo yourself against EA's laziness. As for the original TT GDI EVA, honestly, that tone suits well for RA3's Allied EVA though, should have done that from there. Anyway, your version is superb! But it could might use some changes which is my suggestion, increase the pitch to sound a little more like TS GDI's EVA?

As for your CABAL trial (Or LEGION in this case), HOLY SHIT! This one better go to the Moddb site, it'll gain more popularity and hopefully more people to join us & to help our mod! Is that coming from the TT Nod EVA? Booyah, the robotic reverb and so forth is superb. If there's a Scrin version coming right up, we'll be waiting. Wink

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Post  Raiden4900 Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:40 am

SilentMirage wrote:I think Sendspace will do well since your file is small.

HOISAE! Awesome job, man. It's just like Infested Kerrigan except not having too much Zerg reverb. Nicely done, you outdo yourself against EA's laziness. As for the original TT GDI EVA, honestly, that tone suits well for RA3's Allied EVA though, should have done that from there. Anyway, your version is superb! But it could might use some changes which is my suggestion, increase the pitch to sound a little more like TS GDI's EVA?

As for your CABAL trial (Or LEGION in this case), HOLY SHIT! This one better go to the Moddb site, it'll gain more popularity and hopefully more people to join us & to help our mod! Is that coming from the TT Nod EVA? Booyah, the robotic reverb and so forth is superb. If there's a Scrin version coming right up, we'll be waiting. Wink

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Lol. Thxs M8. Both are from TT's EVA's But I gonna see if we can do it witch actors instead. Tiberian Friend asked for it. When you use the old EVA's then you can only say what they say in the game. So it is a bit restricted.

About GDI's EVA I have made, I wanted her to be like TD's EVA.

Scrin's EVA. Im still unsure what you want? An overlord kinda EVA, or a cross of female and male, pretty much like in C&C3?

But we are faaaaaaaaaaaaar from done. This is only the beginning. Very Happy

And I would wait with putting CABAL on the mod site. I gonna make a great presentation for him. Somthing like.. Crazy sounds of initializing,blablabla. Soundeffects. Then he goes: CABAL Online, Commander... Some random talk and then he says his name. That would be aaaaaawesooome.
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Post  SilentMirage Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:03 am

You wanted as TD's EVA? Very well, I see where you're going. But all of the decision will go to Naraku, I'm just helping around. So I just cheer and say good job. But of course, with the new actors, we'll voice it with new dialogues the better, hopefully much better and to get rid of this whole TCN thing, I already accepted it but I bet some others may still reject it. After all, the TCN reminds them of the whole control node system which we hate most.

Scrin's EVA, I didn't say I want it to be like the Overlord but more female, I was just suggesting it. C&C3's is more female but it was ok, it doesn't hurt. A remixed version is kind of nice, just like you did with your GDI EVA, it sounds kind of Infested Kerrigan. But for now, we should focus on GDI & Nod, Scrin will be later.

Overall, let's see how things go so far. It'll be the right time until Naraku is ready to say things out for our new EVAs.
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Post  Naraku Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:29 pm

Personally, I think that we should have a couple of voice actors and then use a program to alter the voices that way we can have quotes unique to our mod instead of modifying EA's. Our EVAs and unit selection/atk/move voices will be customized, I'm just wondering who has a mic to try it out.
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Post  SilentMirage Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:34 am

I know that you're going to start from scratch, so I don't mind about it. Anyway, nope, I can't volunteer for the voice act, full time job in my hands. I do have a mic but it's not a good quality one either.

If you're looking for unit voices such as each units voices, I'm not sure of EA's version, but I can prepare quotes, for example, the C&C4 Scorpion (A few samples):

Select :
Stinger lasers ready, master.
Scorpion at the ready.
Yes.

Move :
As you wish.
As Kane ordered.

Attack :
They'll join us or die!
Feel the venom!
Lasers, firing!
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Post  Raiden4900 Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:46 am

Actors for the EVA's wont be a problem. Neither with the unit phrases.
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Post  SilentMirage Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:17 am

Well, sounds good to me. Let's see what's more. Smile

PS : Once the new forum is ready, hope we'll get to see a compilation of new artworks as well as any audio samples you send to Naraku. Raiden, it'll be a good chance when you & your actors are ready. Wink
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Post  Raiden4900 Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:49 am

SilentMirage wrote:Well, sounds good to me. Let's see what's more. Smile

PS : Once the new forum is ready, hope we'll get to see a compilation of new artworks as well as any audio samples you send to Naraku. Raiden, it'll be a good chance when you & your actors are ready. Wink

Haha. Sure m8.
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Post  Raiden4900 Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:20 am

A little update. Yesterday, I connected my sampler+mic+anythingelse to my PC, and made some EVA phraseses. It WORKED! Damn it was awesome. Only problem is, that either the mic is broke, or there is some sort of interference, cass there is some background noise. But damn, this gotta be good. My female actor for GDI's EVA was also here. This gonna be beautifull.
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Post  SilentMirage Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:53 am

Hell yes about this one, it's gonna be good! Very Happy

Once you're at it, don't forget to tweak it for both TD & TS versions, we the fans will vote which one's the best and will suit for the mod. Just like I created the Hand of Nod poll, which one will you choose, it's all to the fans' decisions including us, not the creators alone. Wink
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Post  Raiden4900 Sat May 08, 2010 6:41 am

New Ideas recieved.

Playing through the C&C3 campaing as Nod, I came to an new idea if you "want" Kane in the FMV's. Much of the cutscenes is without music, therefor we can use his voice, pull together our own sentence for him and make it as a burst transmission, you know? A transmission with kane on it, but scattered, so you only get glimse of his face, when he does the talking. Another thing I was wondering. You never see "yourself" as the commander you play in C&C. Why not try and take some of the FMV's, and make transitions between Kane an your commanderdude. Seems alot more easy than ripping Kane himself from the FMV's and paste him on our own. Be my... guess.
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Post  SilentMirage Sat May 08, 2010 10:07 am

Well, you can try. Here's what I'm thinking if I were a professional like you. Here's what I'll do and give them a try.

1. Hire a voice actor to voice Kane. Like the EVA voices, the voice actor will not sound the same like Joe Kucan's, so I remix it to become sound more like Joe Kucan himself.
2. To replace EA's bad C&C4 storyline, we create our own, but that requires hiring a near replica Kane actor to play as, well, Kane. Forget Joe Kucan, hiring him to help us is not free, he has to be paid big time if we hire him.

If a guy has hair, better shave it off for the biggest bang ending. Those with glasses, put on contact lenses or perform with just eyes alone. The mustache & beard will be easy to place, make-up. Fans may not appreciate a Kane wannabee, but what can we do, EA already screwed us & Joe Kucan might be hard to negotiate unless he's kind & generous to offer himself to play as Kane in our video studio for free.
3. As for the Commander, why not try Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 style? If you play the game, Captain "Soap" MacTavish (Your playable character from the previous MW1 game) speaks. OR, like Renegade's Lt. Havok, he speaks during gameplay whenever anyone talks with him interactively. Rather than a quiet commander, we make him talk instead.

What do you say?


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Post  Naraku Sat May 08, 2010 10:09 am

Yh, lets have the commander make some smart-ass comments, like in Mechwarrior 4, anyone here played it?
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Post  SilentMirage Sat May 08, 2010 10:15 am

I don't play that game, but I do play Renegade & Modern Warfare 1 & 2. Those games involve the character you play as do speak, even when they're hurt, they'll shout for pain. C&C4's just too quiet even without expressing fear (When the GDI commando tells you to stand down) or pain (When Col. James shot you in the Nod ending).

And another, I played another game called "Act of War : Direct Action" & its "High Treason" expansion, I played as General or Colonel Jason Richter (Rank I forgot), I have a higher commanding officer commands me while my EVA (Technically a lieutenant partner) tells me about mission objective, AND I talk back.
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Post  Naraku Sat May 08, 2010 10:25 am

MW4


new Mechwarrior coming out
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Post  Raiden4900 Sat May 08, 2010 10:31 am

I like the ideas for Kane, but I don't think its gonna work. I don't know any Kane look-a-like. And Im pretty damn sure, no-one will shave their head for free.

Egoisme FTW.

I think we are better of by "renting" Kane from the FMV's as much as possible.
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Post  SilentMirage Sat May 08, 2010 10:33 am

Wow, sounds good. That's what I'm talking about if we were playing MW2 or Renegade. But too bad MW2's Soap doesn't speak when you play as him other than he's hurt (when near death), only in the CGI movies before the mission begins is where he talks. In-game, he doesn't.

Anyway, as for the video you show, it's a whole lot better and understood. Wink Thanks, Naraku.

EDIT : Raiden, do you remember the "Are you Kane" contest 2 years ago? I'm not sure if those actors who shot themselves in those photos will volunteer, even if they don't 100% look like Kane. Finally, I found the link, except the news article gone, but I do find this.



http://planetcnc.gamespy.com/fullstory.php?id=147091

Trevor Long the winner did play Kane very well, despite US maybe a big country and bringing the winner from another state into yours is kind of far though. silent


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Post  Raiden4900 Sat May 08, 2010 10:44 am

SilentMirage wrote: Raiden, do you remember the "Are you Kane" contest 2 years ago? I'm not sure if those actors who shot themselves in those photos will volunteer, even if they don't 100% look like Kane. Finally, I found the link, except the news article gone, but I do find this.


Yeah, I remember. But I think you are forgetting one very basic thing.. We are from Denmark. :s
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Post  SilentMirage Sat May 08, 2010 10:48 am

*helicopter crash*

Yeap, I knew this is going to be a problem. That's why these limitations are hard to solve without huge financial support. Our mod here do have budgets as well, so we also do our best not to blow it over the top. Wink
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Post  Raiden4900 Sat May 08, 2010 10:52 am

SilentMirage wrote:*helicopter crash*

Yeap, I knew this is going to be a problem. That's why these limitations are hard to solve without huge financial support. Our mod here do have budgets as well, so we also do our best not to blow it over the top. Wink

Lol. I just saw that in my own eyes, and damn thats fun. Gonna try make it for a small project. dudes flying in a chopper. "hey dude, are you hungry?" "No hobla englishe" and BAM!

Anyway. Ill see what I can dig up. Might as well try see how it goes taking Kane from the other FMVs and into our own. Now.. Back to EVA.
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Post  SilentMirage Sat May 08, 2010 10:55 am

The helicopter crash was actually an expression for myself and knew I had missed the step of you all in Denmark.

Anyway, the FMV will take some time to figure it out. I'm sure you're not working alone, you maybe the producer or director, but you still have other people work alongside you and so forth. So let's wait & see.
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Post  Raiden4900 Sat May 08, 2010 10:57 am

Meh. Fulltime production-manager in the sparetime is more like it. Very Happy They others works when I command them to. lol
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Post  SilentMirage Sat May 08, 2010 11:09 am

Since you all work too, we can't wait for the storyline to arrive, we still got to prepare the stuffs. Props are one thing, characters are another. I had a friend in Deviantart is working on the Soldier's Head boxart, remember these?

https://reduxmod.darkbb.com/cc4-redux-public-mod-forum-f1/a-boxart-for-the-mod-t13.htm

Those boxart he created are NOT drawn in Photoshop, he used 3D to model the subjects and finally render the whole thing to create a boxart after the arrangement and so forth. No Photoshop was involved, just plain 3D software. Modeling takes weeks or months to finish, but rendering is only a few hours.

Anyway, we should focus on the characters, here's what I'm thinking as a requirement :

1. LEGION (Like in TS, CABAL is not just a Nod EVA, he's also a character)
2. Nod Commander (Prefer that he needs a name)
3. Nod commanding officer (Like Lt. EVA, Ajay, etc..)
4. GDI Commander (Same as #2)
5. GDI commanding officer (Same as #3)
6. Kane (From dialogues taken from FMVs, use it to interact. Just like in KW, the FMV which stars Alexa Kovacs, it has another FMV taken from the C&C3 game)




The above Hitler videos are examples like #6.
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Post  Raiden4900 Sat May 08, 2010 11:21 am

I like what you come up with. Thoes boxarts looks sweet, but as you said, it looks like it haven't been rendered yet. And no.6 was actually what I tried to explain about Kane. cheers Oh. Come to think, If you guys ever wanted something like Kane's appearence in TS with all the crowds and such, I think we can do it just as awesome.
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Post  SilentMirage Sat May 08, 2010 11:27 am

True true, those Hitler videos I got are the authors made them by extracting the game's FMVs, and then compile them into the Hitler videos, and finally turn them into parodies.

And sure, using the Hassan execution scene in the TS Nod campaign is of no problem. It depends on how it goes, after all, you're the director. Wink
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